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Author:  DS
E-mail:  davids@handcraftmfg.com
Date:  10/29/2002 12:54:00 PM
Subject:  berachot
Message:  wouldn't it be ok for the non religious person to make a beracha for you but not kiddush? since kiddush is sanctifying the shabbat, it would not be appropriate for him/her to sanctify the shabbat if they do not observe the shabbat.

but the hamotzi? why would this not be ok for him/her to make hamotzi for you?

Author: Adam
Date: 10/28/2002 12:14:50 PM
Subject: Observance
Message: Why can't a non-observant Jew motzi me in a bracha? Let's say I go to a relative's house and he's not so frum, you know traditional Syrian but not Shomer Shabbat. Am I yotzeh with his kiddush on Shabbat? What about Hamotzi?

Reply: Make your own Kiddush & Hamotzie. How can he be Motzie you if he is not a religious Jew?!

Reply:  No

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